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		<title>Resources for Suffering &#8211; Jesus of the Scars</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 09:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another good resource, the classic poem &#8216;Jesus of the Scars&#8217; JESUS OF THE SCARS (Edward Shillito 1872-1948) If we have never sought, we seek Thee now; Thine eyes burn through the dark, our only stars; We must have sight of thorn-pricks on Thy brow; We must have Thee, O Jesus of the Scars. The heavens [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another good resource, the classic poem &#8216;Jesus of the Scars&#8217;</p>
<p><strong>JESUS OF THE SCARS (Edward Shillito 1872-1948)</strong></p>
<p>If we have never sought, we seek Thee now;<br />
Thine eyes burn through the dark, our only stars;<br />
We must have sight of thorn-pricks on Thy brow;<br />
We must have Thee, O Jesus of the Scars.</p>
<p>The heavens frighten us; they are too calm;<br />
In all the universe we have no place.<br />
Our wounds are hurting us; where is the balm?<br />
Lord Jesus, by Thy Scars we claim Thy grace.</p>
<p>If when the doors are shut, Thou drawest near,<br />
Only reveal those hands, that side of Thine;<br />
We know today what wounds are; have no fear;<br />
Show us Thy Scars; we know the countersign.</p>
<p>The other gods were strong, but Thou wast weak;<br />
They rode, but Thou didst stumble to a throne;<br />
But to our wounds only God’s wounds can speak,<br />
And not a god has wounds, but Thou alone.</p>
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		<title>Resources for Suffering &#8211; The Long Silence</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 09:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tim V-B</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[When we raise the question of suffering with God, which God are we asking? Are we asking the gods of hinduism, which will tell you that your suffering is the result of sin in a previous life? Are we asking the god of Islam, who will tell you “don&#8217;t question. Submit.” Are we asking the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When we raise the question of suffering with God, which God are we asking?</p>
<p>Are we asking the gods of hinduism, which will tell you that your suffering is the result of sin in a previous life?</p>
<p>Are we asking the god of Islam, who will tell you “don&#8217;t question. Submit.”</p>
<p>Are we asking the god most people think of, who sits in heaven on a comfy throne peering down through binoculars at us little ants crawling around?</p>
<p>Or are we asking the God of the Bible.  The God who hangs on a cross, naked, whipped, abandoned, bleeding, dying.</p>
<p>We might walk up to the comfy-throne God and say “what are you doing?  Don&#8217;t you care?  Are you so removed from us that all this pain is nothing to you?”</p>
<p>But we wouldn&#8217;t say that to God on the cross.</p>
<p>Those who have read John Stott&#8217;s <em>The Cross of Christ</em> may remember &#8216;The Long Silence&#8217; &#8211; a short story showing that God has entered the very depths of human suffering.  I&#8217;ve posted it here for your use, after the break.  Like most illustrations of biblical teaching, it is open to mis-use. In particular, this story <em>could</em> give the impression that God really is in the dock, and has no claim over us <em>unless</em> he suffered. That is not the case.  Note who is silent at the end of the story: we are.</p>
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<h2>The Long Silence</h2>
<p>At the end of time, billions of people were seated on a great plain before God&#8217;s throne. Most shrank back from the brilliant light before them. But some groups near the front talked heatedly, not cringing with cringing shame &#8211; but with belligerence.</p>
<p>&#8220;Can God judge us? How can He know about suffering?&#8221;, snapped a pert young brunette. She ripped open a sleeve to reveal a tattooed number from a Nazi concentration camp. &#8220;We endured terror &#8230; beatings &#8230; torture &#8230; death!&#8221;</p>
<p>In another group a Negro boy lowered his collar. &#8220;What about this?&#8221; he demanded, showing an ugly rope burn. &#8220;Lynched, for no crime but being black !&#8221;</p>
<p>In another crowd there was a pregnant schoolgirl with sullen eyes: &#8220;Why should I suffer?&#8221; she murmured. &#8220;It wasn&#8217;t my fault.&#8221; Far out across the plain were hundreds of such groups. Each had a complaint against God for the evil and suffering He had permitted in His world.</p>
<p>How lucky God was to live in Heaven, where all was sweetness and light. Where there was no weeping or fear, no hunger or hatred. What did God know of all that man had been forced to endure in this world? For God leads a pretty sheltered life, they said.</p>
<p>So each of these groups sent forth their leader, chosen because he had suffered the most. A Jew, a negro, a person from Hiroshima, a horribly deformed arthritic, a thalidomide child. In the centre of the vast plain, they consulted with each other. At last they were ready to present their case. It was rather clever.</p>
<p>Before God could be qualified to be their judge, He must endure what they had endured. Their decision was that God should be sentenced to live on earth as a man.</p>
<p>Let him be born a Jew. Let the legitimacy of his birth be doubted. Give him a work so difficult that even his family will think him out of his mind.</p>
<p>Let him be betrayed by his closest friends. Let him face false charges, be tried by a prejudiced jury and convicted by a cowardly judge. Let him be tortured.</p>
<p>At the last, let him see what it means to be terribly alone. Then let him die so there can be no doubt he died. Let there be a great host of witnesses to verify it.</p>
<p>As each leader announced his portion of the sentence, loud murmurs of approval went up from the throng of people assembled. When the last had finished pronouncing sentence, there was a long silence. No one uttered a word. No one moved.</p>
<p>For suddenly, all knew that God had already served His sentence.</p>
<p>Anon (written before Summer 1982)</p>
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		<title>Resources for talking about suffering</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 09:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tim V-B</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have been doing some work recently on the question of God and suffering.  I&#8217;ll post some of the resources I&#8217;ve found as well as the work I&#8217;ve done.  This question comes up again and again with both Christians and non-Christians, but we shouldn&#8217;t try to avoid it because this conversation takes us straight into [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been doing some work recently on the question of God and suffering.  I&#8217;ll post some of the resources I&#8217;ve found as well as the work I&#8217;ve done.  This question comes up again and again with both Christians and non-Christians, but we shouldn&#8217;t try to avoid it because this conversation takes us straight into the good news we proclaim.</p>
<p>First of all,I have on many times used the illustration of a tapestry; we can&#8217;t understand why our life is full of frayed ends and dark threads, but we should remember we only see the underside of the tapestry.  I didn&#8217;t know there was a poem about this, so here it is:</p>
<p><strong>The Weaver (B M Franklin 1882-1965)</strong></p>
<p>My Life is but a weaving<br />
between my Lord and me;<br />
I cannot choose the colors<br />
He worketh steadily.</p>
<p>Oft times He weaveth sorrow<br />
And I, in foolish pride,<br />
Forget He sees the upper,<br />
And I the under side.</p>
<p>Not til the loom is silent<br />
And the shuttles cease to fly,<br />
Shall God unroll the canvas<br />
And explain the reason why.</p>
<p>The dark threads are as needful<br />
In the Weaver&#8217;s skillful hand,<br />
As the threads of gold and silver<br />
In the pattern He has planned.</p>
<p>He knows, He loves, He cares,<br />
Nothing this truth can dim.<br />
He gives His very best to those<br />
Who leave the choice with Him.</p>
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		<title>Some thoughts on Haiti</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 10:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tim V-B</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This post is basically to list a number of articles about Haiti that I&#8217;m reading.  This is by no means an attempt to give a fully balanced response!  The earthquake is a terrible disaster and our church, like many others, has been good in responding with prayer and financial help (in our case, via Tearfund). [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post is basically to list a number of articles about Haiti that I&#8217;m reading.  This is by no means an attempt to give a fully balanced response!  The earthquake is a terrible disaster and our church, like many others, has been good in responding with prayer and financial help (in our case, via Tearfund).</p>
<p>Last week I read this quote in <em>The Week</em> magazine.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;This is not a natural-disaster story,&#8221; said David Brooks in The New York Times. &#8220;This is a poverty story.&#8221; In October 1989, another quake of magnitude 7.0 hit the densely populated but wealthy Bay Area in Northern California; only 63 people died.</p></blockquote>
<p>Here&#8217;s a few articles that explore this:</p>
<p><a title="Times Online" href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/ben_macintyre/article6995750.ece">&#8220;The fault line in Haiti runs straight to France&#8221;</a> explores some of the historical problems that left Haiti in such poverty.  I&#8217;m not interested in bashing the French, but, as the author states, &#8220;in few countries is there a more direct link between the sins of the past and the horrors of the present.&#8221;</p>
<p><a title="Why Tough Love is Needed" href="http://article.nationalreview.com/421811/tough-love-needed-for-haiti/jonah-goldberg">&#8220;Why Tough Love is needed&#8221;</a> explores the cultural problems in Haiti.  The country has been exploited and abused in the past.  But there is also  a culture of dependency on others, not least foreign aid.  Haiti needs material assets, but in the long term the country needs the intangible assets of skills, hard work and a desire for change.</p>
<p><a title="Haiti's Avoidable Death Toll" href="http://www.gmu.edu/depts/economics/wew/articles/10/Haiti'sAvoidableDeathToll.htm">&#8220;Haiti&#8217;s Avoidable Death Toll&#8221;</a> makes the point that Haiti&#8217;s poverty is the result of severe corruption and restrictions on economic liberty.  Free Trade and transparent justice would dramatically improve the economy.</p>
<p>The conclusion, therefore, is <a title="Wall Street Journal" href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704541004575010860014031260.html">&#8220;To Help Haiti, End Foreign Aid&#8221;</a> (from the Wall Street Journal).  Lots of foreign money has poured into Haiti over the years, yet reports reveal very little (if any) long term benefit.  Foreign Aid can often destroy the local economy (e.g. if tonnes of food are imported, local food producers are forced out of business).</p>
<p><a title="More than a million dead" href="http://christthetruth.wordpress.com/2010/01/22/more-than-a-million-dead/">&#8220;More than a million dead&#8221;</a> reminds us that 150,000 people die every day, and this article takes us straight to the gospel response.</p>
<blockquote><p>The Lord has a salvation so audacious He can call earthquakes ‘birth-pains’.  (As can Paul – Rom 8:22).  Certainly they are birth-<em>pains</em>.  But they are <em>birth</em>-pains.  Jesus has a redemption so all-embracing that it will <em>include </em>even these evils.  It won’t simply side-step Haiti, or make the best of a bad situation, it will (somehow!) lift Haiti through this calamity and birth something more glorious out of the pain.</p></blockquote>
<p>Finally, here&#8217;s a sermon by Mark Driscoll who visited Haiti soon after the earthquake.  I haven&#8217;t seen it myself, but I think it will be very good.</p>
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<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>Update:</strong></span> My interest in these articles is not to accuse the Haitians of deserving the disaster. Of course not. But I am interested in the link between &#8216;natural disasters&#8217; and human sin.  A lot of people instinctively respond to the earthquake with &#8220;There cannot be a good and powerful God.&#8221;  I think a better response would be &#8220;Humanity is deeply entangled in sin and suffering. Have Mercy O Lord.&#8221;</p>
<p>Neither am I suggesting that Disaster Response and Aid should not be given.  If we are tempted to think, &#8220;Oh, there&#8217;s so much sin to blame, I&#8217;d rather not give help&#8221; then that means we have entirely missed the point of the gospel.  &#8220;While we were yet sinners Christ died for us.&#8221;  These posts <em>do</em> show that Foreign Aid needs to be carefully thought about so that corruption and poverty is not maintained.  Most of all, they show us that the people of Haiti &#8211; like all of us &#8211; need Jesus Christ.</p>
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